 On October 1 of this year, I sat down with an extraordinary pair of human beings hosting me on their extraordinary podcast called “Everything’s not Black & White.” Not only does the title speak tongue in cheek to the fact that the dynamic cohosts, Lachandra (“Lala”) and Brian Baker, happen to be an interracial couple happily married for the last 15 years; it also speaks eloquently to the theme that underlies and interconnects each of their podcast episodes. Namely, that in the face of our unique stories, widely contrasting circumstances, and individual differences, it is difficult for us to be accurate in our understanding (let alone assessments) of each other, the life paths we follow, and the choices we make. But that a positive first step toward increased understanding and maintaining healthy human connections in the world is simply to provide a space to hear each other’s stories—truly listening while suspending our prejudgments and preconceptions.
This was the platform Lala and Brian generously provided me as a guest on their delightful and welcoming podcast! During the episode, we talk about everything from cross-cultural, interracial, and/or interfaith love to what used to keep me awake at night, to the thrills and challenges of living abroad, to addressing Iranian/American relations, to the secret of peoples and countries getting along. And with the release of my memoir (Road Between Two Hearts: A Black American Bride Discovers Iran) anticipated for Spring of 2025, I am grateful to them for their enthusiasm and support in getting the word out (Thank you, Lala and Brian!) In addition to viewing Lala and Brian’s podcast episode (and their website), please (continue to) do the following:
Kheilee mamnoon! (i.e., “Thank you!” in Persian), Leslie Powell Ahmadi
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AuthorDr. Leslie Ahmadi discovered her intercultural calling in her parents’ home at age four--where between the jazz, the spirituals, and the rock ‘n roll music, she heard folk songs in languages from around the world. Thirty years later she had a doctorate in foreign language and culture education--and her folk song guitar never far away. Archives
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